(4) Any member of the Church may read the Apocrypha, but he should make certain he has the Spirit with him to help him discern what is true from what is not. Some have suggested that the time of Christ's mortal ministry constituted a "gathering." Jeremiah says the Lord will lead the seed of Israel "out of the north country" and then comments: "It shall no more be said, the Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; but the Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands whither he had driven them" (Jeremiah 16:14-15). 2 Nephi 29:6-8 Thou fool that shall say, a Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? . 3 The book would come forth with the words of “them which have slumbered” (v. 6). The word "Bible" comes from "Biblea," an original Greek word not used by Hebrew prophets. What to do with misguided children? Here is the Lord's warning to the "Gentiles" of the last days-the "day of the Gentile." 2 Ne 29:3-4 The term “Bible” is an interesting choice here since the Bible did not yet exist as a single compiled book until the fourth century CE. 2 Nephi 29:13 The Jews, Nephites, and lost tribes shall have each other's words. This book indicates that the ten tribes, after they had been taken captive into Assyria, eventually decided to migrate north to a land which had never before been inhabited: Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land at the time of Osea, the king, whom Salmanasar, the king of Assyria, led away captive, and he carried them over the waters [Euphrates and Tigris Rivers] and so came they into another land. verse 11 "For I command all men . Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. See especially 2 Nephi 29:10–14: “Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written. There are to be at least three major scriptural testimonies of Christ that will eventually come forth. Enos. Rather each is a collection of many books. Many Gentiles will reject the Book of Mormon—They will say, We need no more Bible—The Lord speaks to many nations—He will judge the world out of the books which will be written. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also. 2 Nephi 10. In Joseph Smith's King James Bible, which he was using to create his inspired revision, there were fourteen books between the Old Testament and the New Testament known as the Old Testament Apocrypha. One of the definitions of hiss in Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language is, "To whiz, as an arrow or other thing in rapid flight." . About 559–545 B.C. 102:28; D&C 132:30; Moses 7:52 (50–53). 2 Nephi 27. Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? 2. 2 Nephi 29:6-8 Thou fool that shall say, a Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. He is also condemning those who feel that the Bible alone is sufficient scripture to settle all questions of religion. December 24, 2015. While we may have come to regard them, as a culture, to be refractory to the gospel message until the Lord's second coming, we must love them and never cease our efforts to win them over to the fulness of the gospel-to "recover them.". It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). verse 6 The Lord is still condemning those latter-day "Gentiles" who claim to accept the Bible yet maintain prejudices against the Jews, the very people that gave us the Bible. As long as we are "Bible bashing" with the sectarian world, why not bring up a verse written by the very same author who wrote the verse in Revelation 22: "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written" (John 21:25). In Deuteronomy 31:4 Moses addresses scattered Israel and implies that a part of scattered Israel may even be located somewhere outside of this earth: "If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee" (italics added). 2 Nephi 12. 2 Nephi 13. 2 Nephi 29: 12. 3 Nephi 1:13. Most latter-day saints are not familiar with the apocryphal Old Testament books because they were eliminated from the King James Bible and all protestant Bibles in the early 1800s. Deut. 2 Ne 25:29 worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul. 2 Ne 9:31-2 wo unto the deaf that will not hear When Jacob is warning the deaf and the blind, he is obviously referring to those who are spiritually deaf and spiritually blind. No evidence has yet been submitted for this verse. Brigham Young said: "The ten tribes of Israel are on a portion of the earth-a portion separate from the main land" (Brigham Young, quoted by Matthais F. Cowley in his book, Wilford Woodruff, 448). This would include the citizens of the great Gentile nation of the latter days, the United States of America, though many of those citizens are blood descendants of the house of Israel. "when the two nations shall run together" What are the "two nations"? And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever. 4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a aBible; and it shall proceed forth from the bJews, mine ancient covenant people. Apparently the returning Israelites will fill up the Western Hemisphere. 2 Nephi 29. Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? 2 Nephi 2:25 Adam fell that men might be, and men are, that they might have joy. . In latter-day scripture we read: "And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves" (D&C 133:26). Again, the phrase "all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south" and the phrase "islands of the sea" refer to scattered Israel wherever they may be found. The records of the Nephites and of the Jews obviously do not consist of only one book each. being gathered in from the four corners of the earth, and from the north countries" (Ether 13:11, italics added). 2 Nephi 29:12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. God will proceed to do "a marvelous work" (the Book of Mormon) and remember Nephi's seed (the Mormons), and the words of Nephi's seed will proceed out of God's mouth. It would appear that the more spiritual elements were quickened sufficiently to be transferred to a location, perhaps the "outmost parts of heaven" referred to by Moses who promised they would also be gathered back in the due time of the Lord. 2 Nephi 12 ... 2 Nephi 23. He will remember His people again, especially the Nephites and the lost 10 tribes of Israel. Isn't it exciting to consider and speculate regarding these other records? The lost tribes are Israelites whose identity is not known to the world and in some cases not even to themselves. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. This combined scriptural record will "show unto them that fight against my word . 2 Nephi 25. Revelation has not ceased. 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? 11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written. "And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them?". (2) There are also many things contained therein that are not true but are the false traditions of men. We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.” This is one of the great missionary scriptures. 2 Nephi 29: 12: “For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and … Continue reading 2 Nephi 29: 12 → 2 Nephi 3. Mosiah. verse 8 "murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word?" Ps. TG Israel, Gathering of; Israel, Restoration of. 2 For I, Nephi, have not taught them many things concerning the manner of the Jews; for their a works were works of darkness, and their doings were doings of abominations. As a result, “they…that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine” (Isaiah 29:24, 2 Nephi 27:35). that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.". If the Lord is going to set his hand a "second" time to gather Israel, then when was the first time the Lord "set his hand to recover his people"? One of the definitions of. "that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people" This same expression is used a few times in the book of Second Nephi. Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. A Bible! 2 Nephi 29:5 O ye gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? The Nephites, understandably, had a difficult time understanding Isaiah. How can we be the "hissers" or tellers? See the commentary for the previous verse for reflections on the identity of the "Gentiles.". . Again, this term refers simply to scattered Israel, wherever they may be found upon the earth. It is likely that the two nations are the Old World (Judah) and the New World (Joseph or Ephraim). In this setting, the Book of Mormon comes forth by miraculous means and through an unsophisticated prophet to provide guidance to those who have faith. Not only do we have the Bible and the Book of Mormon and the other standard works of the Church, but we as a people look forward to additional sacred scripture which will eventually be restored to the earth (D&C 93:18; D&C 107:57, Ether 4:7). From chapters 6-10 they quote much of Isaiah, Nephi even explains how the words of Isaiah will slowly come to understanding as time goes on… for they are difficult to understand without the spirit. Today, if one is interested, these books are available and may be easily found and purchased. 2 Nephi 33. The only individual to whom the Lord is able to "prove" anything is he who is responsive to the Spirit. (3) There is no need to revise the Apocrypha. 2 Nephi 29 A Bible! See the commentary for 1 Nephi 14:1-2; 1 Nephi 14:8. I was being prompted before finding this blog that I needed to focus my studies more on the Book of Mormon. 2 Tim. Are you really resisting the concept that revelations in addition to the Bible should come forth? We have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible! The verse then tantalizes us by suggesting the eventual coming forth of yet a fourth record, that of "all nations of the earth." A Bible! It ends following "my words shall hiss forth"-in verse 3. The marvelous work and a wonder which the Lord brings to pass in the last days is the establishment of the kingdom of God on earth, the gathering of Israel, and the fulfillment of the covenants that the Lord has made with the ancient prophets. See also 2 Nephi 6:14, 2 Nephi 21:11, and 2 Nephi 25:17. The City of Enoch was taken up and perhaps even that portion of earth on which the city was located. There are literally hundreds of pieces of ancient literature which have been discovered that are as old as the Old Testament books in our Bible. But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all... LDS Scripture of the Day January 1, 2017. . "for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world" It may be true that a man who has not heard the law or had a chance to understand it will be judged lightly until he had that chance (D&C 82:3; Luke 12:48). Modern revelation indicates that the massive immigration pouring across the Lord's mighty highway will saturate all of the arable land and require the settling of both deserts and barren regions. A Bible! The Nephite nation was indeed destroyed according to the words of Nephi in a manner similar to the destruction of Jerusalem . We do not accept them as canonized scripture, but certainly acknowledge that they may contain some significant truths. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my dpeople, who are of the ehouse of Israel, that I am God, and that I fcovenanted with gAbraham that I would remember his hseed iforever. 1:10; 1 Ne. The Bible is not the final word of God. TG Scriptures, Preservation of; Scriptures, Writing of. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. 12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it. We can never risk the scriptural apathy that invariably follows if a church member stops studying the scriptures. 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Gen. 12:2 (1–3); 1 Ne. If one people to whom the Lord has spoken has been commanded to record at least some of which the Lord has said, isn't it logical to suppose that others to whom the Lord has spoken will also be asked to write it down? We sometimes put cultural blinders on and only see things from our own perspective or the perspective of people who are very similar to us. 6:14; 21:11; 25:17. It encompasses the first great commandment-to love the Lord thy God. 3 And because my words shall hiss forth-many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! At the time of Moses, the Lord set his hand the first time to lead his people out of captivity in Egypt to their land of inheritance in Palestine. The construction of this verse is unusual in that most of it consists of a very long parenthetical expression which begins following "there shall be many"-and extends through verse 2 into verse 3. A-A; A+; 2 Ne 25:1 Isaiah spake many things which were hard for many of my people to understand. 6 Thou fool, that shall say: A aBible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. The Lord in D&C 91 gave him, in essence, the following answer which is the position of the Church on the Apocrypha: (1) These books contain many things which are true, and they are mostly translated correctly. . (Isaiah 51:10). 2 Nephi 2:27 Lehi's teaching on the principle of agency. 7 Know ye not that there are more anations than one? (2 Nephi 29:4): A Note on the Name “Judah” and Antisemitism (Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture Book 12) (English Edition) eBook: Matthew L. … 4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible ; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. 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